Cnlp 545: Annie F. Downs on Building Fame Versus Building Influence, Podcasting Tips, Tricks, and Secrets, and How to Handle Leadership Pressure

Annie F. Downs, host of the That Sounds Fun Podcast and Podcast Network, discusses the rapid growth of her company, the difference between building fame and building influence, podcasting tips, tricks, and secrets, and how to handle the personal and professional challenges of leadership.
Welcome to Episode 545 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.
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He Gets Us
He Gets Us is a national campaign all about raising the respect and relevancy of Jesus.
Are you preparing your people for Super Bowl Sunday? He Gets Us will run ads during the game, reaching the thousands who plan to tune in.
Whether your church is hosting a viewing, or you know of people in your church who will be having parties, it’s a great opportunity to start a conversation.
Go to to download resources to prepare your church for these conversations with curious viewers.
Every church leader knows that having trained and engaged volunteers is essential to successfully accomplishing your mission. But if you’re like most leaders, you also know how tricky it can be to onboard and equip people for your team. What if there was a resource that made it easier?
Well, let me recommend ServeHQ to you.
ServeHQ is simple video training courses that help you equip volunteers and develop leaders. You can create your own training or use their video library. You can even automate next steps to onboard new people.
ServeHQ provides an online learning platform that tracks progress for each person. They include a large library of pre-built courses that include training videos and follow-up quiz questions for church volunteers and leaders in every area of ministry.
ServeHQ also provides simple tools to create your own training without needing special video equipment or software…just your computer and web browser. They also provide basic email and text messaging for team communication, giving you a central place to equip your ministry team and communicate with them.
Their easy-to-use automation tools make onboarding new volunteers and church members fast, easy, and consistent. You can create automatic sequences that enroll learners in online courses, send timed messages, and alert church staff members of follow-up tasks, too.
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Let’s Read the Gospels Podcast
That Sounds Fun Podcast
That Sounds Fun Network
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CNLP 240: Annie F. Downs on the Secrets of Reaching a Large Audience and Connecting with A Growing Tribe by Keeping it Personal
CNLP 340: Annie F. Downs on How to Really Connect with Your Audience, Why Production Levels Don’t Matter as Much as You Think, and How to Share More of You with the People You Lead
CNLP 412: Annie F. Downs Deconstructs How to Engage an Audience, Getting Traction on Podcasts, and Why Hobbies and Fun are Essential for Leaders
Chase the Fun: 100 Days to Discover Fun Right Where You Are By Annie F. Downs
That Sounds Fun: The Joys of Being an Amateur, the Power of Falling in Love, and Why You Need a Hobby By Annie F. Downs
100 Days to Brave: Devotions for Unlocking Your Most Courageous Self By Annie F. Downs
Remember God By Annie F. Downs
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Quotes from Episode 545
Time is the currency I worry about. Influence is the currency I pursue. Money is the one we just have to need. @anniefdownsCLICK TO TWEETWhen you actually give away a piece of what you feel like you can’t give away, God gives you back way more. @anniefdownsCLICK TO TWEETHow I’m gonna know I’m successful at my job, is not actually the numbers on the other side of the work, but whether the lives of my staff are flourishing. @anniefdownsCLICK TO TWEETAlways tell the truth because that is going to set you up for long-term success. @anniefdownsCLICK TO TWEET
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